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Tizzy Lizz^

Number of posts: 2317 Localisation: Illadelph Registration date: 2007-01-03
 | Subject: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:08 pm | |
| This is an excerpt from an article I saw about the Wall Street, stocks falling...I know zilch about stocks...but I'm posting this because there is phrase in here about a housing and mortgage crisis and I wanted someone to school me on this... EXCERPT BELOW- today's news (AOL) Tuesday's drop followed steep losses on Wall Street in the past few months as investors took in a stream of weak economic data and reports that financial firms had lost billions of dollars due to the housing and mortgage crisis. With the housing and credit markets unlikely to turn around soon, and more disappointing economic news expected, investors were likely to keep shying away from stocks. |
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swayyah

Number of posts: 277 Registration date: 2007-11-05
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:48 pm | |
| Yeah I don't know much about this stuff either. I just saw this morning that Bank of America's profits went down 95% due to mortgages. People are saying that we may even go into a recession. I think what is means is because of the lack of economic growth in our economy and the rate that loans were given to "people who really couldn't afford it" it's negatively effecting the stock market especially for the banks and loan agencies. Lots of people are defaulting on loans and because of it these companies are losing their money. You also have people out here getting ARM or adjustable rate mortgages so they can get lower interest rates, but when they adjust in 6mos-1yr, they can't afford it. So you have most of the banks just writing off millions of dollars in defaults. Because of this they are taking away from their profit, and if you have no profit; stocks go down. |
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glory

Number of posts: 731 Localisation: over philly Registration date: 2007-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:08 am | |
| I read about this stuff everyday and I hope I can shed some light. Swayyah is right on point with it. Over the past maybe ten years, lenders, like banks and mortgage companies, have been lending money to people to buy homes. Ordinarily you have to have a certain income and your credit has to be good enough to be able to get a loan. But in recent years, you could get a house with mediocre credit, low or no down payments, no proof of income - they were handing out mortgages to pretty much anyone who wanted one. These kinds of mortgages are now currently called "subprime" loans. Thing about these loans is, they give you a low interest rate to start with, and eventually, the rate goes up. They do this because lending money to someone who didn't prove they could pay the loan back is risky, and people who supposedly have bad credit have to pay more to borrow money than other people. This makes people's mortgage payments go up. This makes it harder for them to make ends meet. Then people start not paying their mortgage 'cause they can't afford it. This is bad for a lot of people. It's bad for the homebuyer, 'cause they get put out of the house at foreclosure. It's bad for the bank or mortgage company, 'cause they don't get paid. Either that, or the lender sold their rights to get the mortgage payments to some other company, and that company gets screwed. Sometimes whole entire neighborhoods have house after house after house that was purchased with a subprime mortgage. Next thing you know, it's foreclosures up and down the block from when people couldn't pay and got put out. That makes the neighborhood property values go down. A lot of people have been borrowing from the value of their house but when that goes down, they can't do that so they have less money to spend. Add this in the mix: we had a mediocre holiday shopping season. Gas is high. Utilities are high. People can't get loans, and banks are being more stingy in giving them out 'cause they lost a lot of money on that give-money-to-everyone-who-asks-for-it thing. Put all this together, and you wind up with a lot of people who have less money to spend. And when people don't spend money, the stock market goes down. So investors don't want to buy stocks 'cause they don't think they'll make any money that way. Since the demand is lower, the price is lower, and that's why the Dow Jones is dropping every day. It's freaking people out 'cause the value of their retirement savings, their homes, their stock portfolios - it's all dropping and people with anything to lose are feeling poorer. They're thinking this may be the beginning of a recession (which is at least six months of negative economic growth.) For most people with few assets however, it's the same isht, different day. |
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sam I am

Number of posts: 476 Registration date: 2007-01-08
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:10 pm | |
| thanks alot for the info ladies. QUESTION? with all this going on in the present is this a plus or minus for first time home buyers?  |
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sam I am

Number of posts: 476 Registration date: 2007-01-08
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:19 pm | |
| | sam I am wrote: | thanks alot for the info ladies. QUESTION? with all this going on in the present is this a plus or minus for first time home buyers?  |
i guess this is the answer to my own question, huh?
Fed Survey: Banks Tightening Credit By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer 2 HOURS AGO WASHINGTON - Many U.S. banks have made it harder for creditworthy borrowers to get a mortgage, according to a Federal Reserve survey released Monday that underscored the spread of a painful credit crunch.
"About 55 percent of domestic respondents indicated that they had tightened their lending standards on prime mortgages," the Fed survey said. That was up from about 40 percent in a previous survey released in November.
Problems first cropped up in the market for risky "subprime" mortgages made to people with tarnished credit or low incomes and have been spreading to more creditworthy borrowers. Foreclosures have hit record highs.
About 60 percent of domestic banks responding to the survey indicated that they had tightened their lending standards for approving applications for revolving home equity lines of credit over the past three months, the Fed said.
The Fed's survey found that banks have tightened lending standards on a range of mortgages. They also have tightened lending standards for businesses.
For the latest survey, banks had to respond by Jan. 17. That was before the Fed _ in part citing a worsening credit crunch _ became more aggressive in cutting its key interest rate.
The Fed last week lowered its key rate by a bold half-percentage point. Just eight days earlier, the Fed in an emergency session slashed its key rate by a rare three-quarters-percentage point. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke convened that meeting after stocks plunged worldwide, intensifying fears that the United States was heading toward its first recession since 2001. The two cuts together represent the Fed's most intensive rate reductions in two decades.
The survey also found that "large majorities of domestic and foreign banks expect a deterioration in loan quality in 2008" affecting both business and consumer loans, the Fed said.
The survey was based on responses from 56 domestic banks and 23 foreign banking institutions. |
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swayyah

Number of posts: 277 Registration date: 2007-11-05
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:56 pm | |
| | sam I am wrote: | thanks alot for the info ladies. QUESTION? with all this going on in the present is this a plus or minus for first time home buyers?  |
well if you are gonna get a subprime mortgage thenit should be harder for you in theory. The banks need to know that when they raise your interest rates as a condition of that type of loan, that you will be able to pay it. That is why the banks are in the jam they are in now, because they gave subprime loans to more people than could really afford it. If you get a conventional loan it probably shouldn't be as much of an issue. Although i believe the article you posted said that there has been some changes for all types of mortgages, but if your credit isn't really bad and you don't have a lot of "bad" debt you should be fine in terms of obtaining financing. In terms of you being a first time home buyer, if you are actually going to live in your home, this is the best time to buy. Because it's harder for people to get loans to buy house, houses aren't being sold. Think about it, if you are someone who wants to sell your home and it's been sitting on the market for weeks or months that you didn't intend, what are you going to do? You drop the price of your home so that it can sell quicker. Now for first time buyers, there in lies the advantage. You have homes going way below market value. And even though the banks are being more restrictive, it can still work out for you. Say you want to buy a house that costs 100,000, the bank may only give you 80,000 based on the crisis, your credit, and everything else. It may be lower than you had anticipated, but because the house you want to buy has been sitting on the market for so long, or it needs to be sold right away, you can negotiate down to 80 or 90 and possibly get it because of the strain on the sellers, which means you have access to more money from the bank.
Now if you are a house flipper or just buying to generate profit, it's not a good time at all to buy. People aren't buying or don't have the finances to buy so with flippers they are loosing money by holding onto properties.
so to answer your original question...it's a plus for first time home buyers.
tricky bizness this real estate stuff is. |
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swayyah

Number of posts: 277 Registration date: 2007-11-05
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:29 pm | |
| ...oh and interest rates are dropping.... which is also a PLUS for homebuyers. |
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sam I am

Number of posts: 476 Registration date: 2007-01-08
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:39 pm | |
| glory and swayyah i must thank you both for sharing your knowledge with a brotha. |
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alyson

Number of posts: 1143 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:50 pm | |
| i know this is horrible...but i am patiently waiting until i can buy a nice house in a good school district that's being foreclosed or in threat of foreclosure. that's that's the only way i'll be able to afford something decent. i saw a nice 3 bdrm townhouse in cherry hill for 204k and was upset i couldn't jump on it then. it's sad when you think 204 for a townhouse is cheap, but it was waaaay below market value and i figured the seller was in a crunch. when i look for property i do a lot of research: school district, city ordinances, building/zoning laws, etc. the building/zoning laws are extrmemly important because they determine the value of your home. when i lived in mays landing, they passed a law saying that only single family homes could be built from that point forward unless it was for 'active adults.' i owned a 3 floor end-unit townhouse 3 miles from the mall and the expressway, but still far enough in the woods that it was private. my property value doubled within 4 years - and all i did was put ceramic tile in the kitchen and dining room. research is key when you buy a house... _________________ alyson...
"yesterday was practice." ~ jg
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vincentlopez

Number of posts: 205 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:10 am | |
| A buyer for a house I'm selling had to switch from getting a conventional loan to the FHA loan because of this crazy market. I also used the FHA loan to get my my first property because of the lower downpayment option. The downside is a higher interest rate. The game always depends on how much money you're willing and able to put down. With these lowere interest rates today, the FHA loan is best for first time homebuyers with little savings. _________________ THIMK and grow rich...in consciousness!
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sam I am

Number of posts: 476 Registration date: 2007-01-08
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:02 pm | |
| thanks vince. ill do some research on FHA loans. |
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swayyah

Number of posts: 277 Registration date: 2007-11-05
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:27 pm | |
| FHA loans also have stipulations that conventional loans don't have. Sometimes the houses you want don't meet the requirements of the FHA loans so it may limit your options.  RESEARCH is good though, cuz like vince said there are some benefits. |
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vincentlopez

Number of posts: 205 Registration date: 2007-01-04
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alyson

Number of posts: 1143 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:35 pm | |
| my neighbors are buying a house with a FHA loan. no down payment, but that have to purchase a home in a rural area. i'm not sure what the interest rate is, but i know it's high. the good thing about it is they are really strick and will only lend them what they can afford, unlike a lot of predatory lenders out there. _________________ alyson...
"yesterday was practice." ~ jg
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glory

Number of posts: 731 Localisation: over philly Registration date: 2007-01-07
 | Subject: Re: Housing and Mortgage crisis? Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:55 pm | |
| sam, i'm a first time homebuyer myself. i'm working on saving for a down payment. one thing about philly (i'm trying to buy in the city limits) is that this isn't one of those towns where the real estate market went crazy like in ohio or california or florida. a lot of the housing in the city is pretty much being offered at the price that it should be, so we probably won't see prices falling VERY low. however, we probably won't be seeing the prices shooting up any time soon, either, which is good! i probably won't do FHA financing - i'll probably wind up going through my credit union. it should take less time that way, and i am a very impatient woman. |
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