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PostSubject: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 2:48 pm

How long does it take before giving someone a set of keys to the house or car?

Is love/trust the deciding factor?
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 4:17 pm

VARR$ITY wrote:
How long does it take before giving someone a set of keys to the house or car?

Is love/trust the deciding factor?


ok this may sound hypocritical but let me explain. She isn't getting a key to my house!!! she can ring the bell or call the phone and i'll gladly let her in. Now while i will take a key to her house (and this is the part that sounds hypocritical lol) however i wouldnt use the key much. It would only be for emergency say she locked her keys in the house or something of that nature. Id still knock or ring the bell or call when i came over key or not

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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 5:49 pm

Mar wrote:
ok this may sound hypocritical but let me explain. She isn't getting a key to my house!!! she can ring the bell or call the phone and i'll gladly let her in. Now while i will take a key to her house (and this is the part that sounds hypocritical lol) however i wouldnt use the key much. It would only be for emergency say she locked her keys in the house or something of that nature. Id still knock or ring the bell or call when i came over key or not


In a weird, twisted, and unreasonalbe way, it makes sense to me because i've been in the situation that you just explained.

Thats a huge step. If this were to happen, please believe that we'd be living together.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 6:22 pm

A few things have to be in place for me to give her a key

- I need to trust her enough to leave her alone in my home
- I need to know that she knows and respects what is appropriate and acceptable to me when it comes to use of that key
- I need to be ready for the kind of commitment that shared keys implies

Because of that last part, if I wasn't ready to give a woman a key to my home, I wouldn't accept a key to hers.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 7:29 pm

it's all about trust. their are family members that i wouldn't leave in my home alone let alone give them their own key.

i have left my key with friends for various reasons, but they all respect me enough to respect my stuff. and i guess the fact that they're FRIENDS and not significant others contributes to that decision.

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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 7:34 pm

For me, no keys are being given out - unless you paying for something, and I'm still skeptical about that because the first thing somebody does when they get a key is make copies - and if the person turns out to be crazy, then you have to get your locks changed.

I would feel the same way, even if someone gave me their key, it would not make me feel obligated to give them a key.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 12, 2008 10:27 pm

Tizzy Lizz^ wrote:
and if the person turns out to be crazy, then you have to get your locks changed.

If you're still not sure if a person is crazy or not, it's definitely not time to give them a key.

I think if someone is worth staying with, there should come a point in the relationship where it doesn't make sense NOT to exchange keys. If you can't hand over a key knowing that despite the privelage, the other person will continue to respect you, your living space, your property, and your privacy, how can you trust them enough to open your heart and soul to them?
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 7:15 am

I'm cool. I don't need to be all up in their world, dropping by unannounced with "surprise" visits and vice-versa. My thing is, if we live together - that's one thing, but if we don't, then I can respect a man's space, privacy...and I would want the same.

The trust will come. I just don't need to give up a key to show that.

I've had keys, but I didn't ask for them, and I never gave mine up. When I did use them, I always called first hours or a day ahead.

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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 9:32 am

Yeah.. we need to be living together. Otherwise there's no reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 2:18 pm

Here's a scenario:
My lady comes over to spend the evening/night together. She has her laptop so she can take care of whatever she's working on, clothes for work the next day, and the clothes she's wearing. The next morning we both go to work. Some of my co-workers want to go to happy hour afterwards.

option 1 - my lady can't get her stuff until I get home late that night
option 2 - she carries a bunch of crap to work
option 3 - I change my plans so I can let her in to get her stuff
option 4 - we don't bother spending the night together because it's just too difficult (this time and every other time a similar situation arises)
option 5 - give her a key

Options 1 - 4 are not desireable. 5 makes things easier on both of us. If I'm going to take a more difficult/inconveniant option over an easier one, I always need an explicit reason. If our relationship isn't at a point where I could trust her to act right with a key, OK, that's a reason. If I don't want to give her the impression that our relationship is more serious than it is, that'd be a reason too. But, if our relationship is serious and I do trust her, why not give her the key?

That's the question for all of you in the no-key-ever camp - in a situation like this, why would you not give the key?
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 2:39 pm

A_Str8 wrote:
Here's a scenario:
My lady comes over to spend the evening/night together. She has her laptop so she can take care of whatever she's working on, clothes for work the next day, and the clothes she's wearing. The next morning we both go to work. Some of my co-workers want to go to happy hour afterwards.

option 1 - my lady can't get her stuff until I get home late that night
option 2 - she carries a bunch of crap to work
option 3 - I change my plans so I can let her in to get her stuff
option 4 - we don't bother spending the night together because it's just too difficult (this time and every other time a similar situation arises)
option 5 - give her a key

Options 1 - 4 are not desireable. 5 makes things easier on both of us. If I'm going to take a more difficult/inconveniant option over an easier one, I always need an explicit reason. If our relationship isn't at a point where I could trust her to act right with a key, OK, that's a reason. If I don't want to give her the impression that our relationship is more serious than it is, that'd be a reason too. But, if our relationship is serious and I do trust her, why not give her the key?

That's the question for all of you in the no-key-ever camp - in a situation like this, why would you not give the key?


What stuff? Her laptop? I'm guessing it's not a work laptop. That's a tough one... But it'll just have to wait. It's a judgment call. But err umm... the rule of thumb will be... don't leave it at my house if you can't wait to get it back... why are you leaving stuff at my house anyway? Woah, woah, woah.... now we're leading up to a key exchange but we're not quite there yet. Indeed. If someone is chilling in my house like that.. then I trust them. I don't let just anyone in my sanctuary. So we're probably working toward the "big exchange". I need to be in a committed relationship with the person. If I've made that decision then it's a prerequisite that I know the person well and I trust them. And it needs to happen naturally, as in your scenario.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 7:08 pm

A_Str8 wrote:
Here's a scenario:
My lady comes over to spend the evening/night together. She has her laptop so she can take care of whatever she's working on, clothes for work the next day, and the clothes she's wearing. The next morning we both go to work. Some of my co-workers want to go to happy hour afterwards.

option 1 - my lady can't get her stuff until I get home late that night
option 2 - she carries a bunch of crap to work
option 3 - I change my plans so I can let her in to get her stuff
option 4 - we don't bother spending the night together because it's just too difficult (this time and every other time a similar situation arises)
option 5 - give her a key

Options 1 - 4 are not desireable. 5 makes things easier on both of us. If I'm going to take a more difficult/inconveniant option over an easier one, I always need an explicit reason. If our relationship isn't at a point where I could trust her to act right with a key, OK, that's a reason. If I don't want to give her the impression that our relationship is more serious than it is, that'd be a reason too. But, if our relationship is serious and I do trust her, why not give her the key?

That's the question for all of you in the no-key-ever camp - in a situation like this, why would you not give the key?


Option 2, or 3. (knowing me it would be option 2 geek
Don't be leaving nothing behind to have a reason to be in my spot by yourself - take everything with you that you came with. Or wait till I get back and get it.

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Or I could show a loving side and just rearrange my plans to make sure they get their laptop.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 8:33 pm

lol!

tizzy, you are too funny...

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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Tue May 13, 2008 10:30 pm

I've recieved keys but never gave them out. Even tho i had them, I still gave a warning about when i'd be arriving. A call was always placed before i showed up. I dont do the "pop up" thing because i hate when people do that to me.
If you pop up unannounced, its a strong chance that you wont be let in.
I simply wont answer the door. You have to respect peoples space.
Thats not my twist at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Unlocking the doors   Mon May 26, 2008 9:52 pm

afro

Well my shit was easy. My king and I were long distance before we shared a spot. My building had a security door. Since they only gave us two keys to the security door.....I had to be there to let him in the building because my lil sis had the other security key in case something went wrong at my crib. It didn't much matter to me and my King since our visits had to be well planned out anyways and you don't keep it going with someone that lives that far away(Detroit Suburbs to Chester, Pa...that's like 9hrs of driving on a good day or one expensive ass flight to be taking atleast once a month) if it ain't about nothin'. If ya do ya crazy in my opinion.
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